They have guaranteed visuals, guaranteed main vocals, and guaranteed main dancers that don't fall behind any other group, yet SM 5th Center's Lee Sangmin and Kim Hyungook keep boiling up that *altang* (fish roe stew). I'm so sick of that gross, old-man ahjussi vibe tainted by Super Junior. Please just admit the limits of your own ability, take your hands off RIIZE, and move them to a different center, seriously.